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by lucianbr 584 days ago
I am certain Xi and Putin and Trump think it is their right and prerogative to "protect people from themselves". Just like you.

This is for example the justification used to ban books. Certain books, when read, give people incorrect ideas, and we need to protect them from themselves.
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mdp2021 584 days ago
No, the point is that you'd better "protect yourself from them". That one should not «protect people from themselves» is opinable, but as that one is directly involved, a better question is "how to protect yourself" - which is a revolution in perspective.

That some people may have had a position (and that is also to be shown) that coincidentally overlaps with something that be confused as related to the above changes nothing (of the truthfulness of the idea).

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lucianbr 584 days ago
You first said it is your right to protect people from themselves. This new different position is more reasonable. Sure, go ahead, protect yourself from others. Be aware they will protect themselves from you too, on the exact same arguments.
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mdp2021 584 days ago
No, look: you cannot take chunks of posts when they are not semantically isolated, there is no «new» position, it is the same expressed more verbosely:

it was "Protect[ing people] from themselves[? ... Certainly[], because society has consequences over the individual".

It means, "no, it is not a good idea to let them be liabilities: the consequences fall on you".

You see that the point is not plainly "protecting people from themselves", and the closest cone of interpretations of that, right?

> Be aware they will

An where is the problem? That is duly! Society is based on reciprocal interaction AND correction! Of course everybody is supposed to contribute.

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