[GeoAtreides]

your argument has an invalid premise: "Models say X is happening." It's not the models that are saying X (temp goes up) is happening, it's empirical data.

A better argument is:

- We observe X is happening

- create a model of X happening

- use model of X to predict X in the future

- model of X might be or might not be flawed

- meanwhile, X is still happening in the real world

[badgersnake]

It’s also interesting that this site has been having a collective orgasm over models that frequently give wrong answers for at least a year now. When climate is involved it’s suddenly a big problem.