[defrost]

It's viable to minimise personal use.

It's viable to live on a farm and rarely leave it, many do and many enjoy that lifestyle.

It's viable to have shopping and personal items shipped in with larger supply deliveries and fold that personal usage into the neccessary usage for production.

FWiW I grew up on a cattle station in one of the more remote parts of the planet, no proper roads, TV, shops, etc and somehow still managed to get a good education and write a few million SLOC of mapping, geophysics, and asset managent code in the 80's and 90's.

So yes - I do think its viable ( QED ).

[Retric]

So, no. But you don’t want to actually say no.

Look we’ve got larger form factor EV’s, but suggesting electric bikes as a viable alternative when it’s clearly a niche case for rural commuters is pointless.

[defrost]

Yes, it's viable. Are you incapable of reading? Read the comment again and don't strawman. Do you want people to have zero respect for you?

> when it’s clearly a niche case

The entire oh but rural people is your niche case that you bought up.

For more than a decade now countries such as the US, Australia, etc have been more urban than rural. The overwhelming vast bulk of people live within urban areas.

And still some twit will counter a comment suggesting more people should walk, use lighter more efficient vehicles, etc. with a niche but what about farmers type parry.

That's weak.

Efficient solutions for the future should pay attention to distributions of people, trips, resources, etc.

Sad weak counters focus on "but some are different from the many therefore .."

One size doesn't fit all and there will be exceptions.

[Retric]

> Sad weak counters focus on "but some are different from the many therefore .."

> One size doesn't fit all and there will be exceptions.

There’s ”some” and then there’s 1 in 1,000 people, no that’s an edge case not a solution.

Hell, actually living on a farm is even more efficient, which is why it’s what the overwhelming majority of farmers do. You only brought it up because you found it interesting not because it was actually relevant to the discussion.

PS: Also, at least in the US if someone is living in a town that’s considered an urban area. The threshold for town is higher than the qualifications for urban area.