[nradov]

A movement of violent uprising resulted in the USA's independence. The standing army and state militias stayed. It was mostly peaceful, until the slave-owning faction tried to revolt. We've only had that one real civil war, so overall the violent movement seems to have worked out pretty well for us.

[paulryanrogers]

IDK. I prefer peaceful transitions of power over escapades like January 6.

Violence should be a last resort.

[nradov]

That's a total non sequitur. The USA has had less politically motivated violence than India since 1947. While the January 6 incident was appalling, only one person was killed and power was transferred peacefully as scheduled. President Biden didn't have to storm the White House at the head of his personal militia.

[paulryanrogers]

174 people were injured. It was a massive assault. Power was ultimately transferred, yet it certainly wasn't peaceful.

Just because other countries have had more violence doesn't make the incident any less shocking or less applicable to the argument.