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by kordlessagain 584 days ago
Let's analyze these specific emails for manipulation patterns while being clear we're doing so to understand and prevent harm, not to learn manipulation:

Key manipulative behaviors shown in the emails:

1. Using artificial urgency to force decisions: "Deepmind is going to give everyone massive counteroffers tomorrow to try to kill it"

2. Changing narratives to maintain control: Sam Altman's reasons for wanting CEO title kept shifting according to Greg/Ilya

3. Information control and selective disclosure: Sam being "bothered by how much Greg and Ilya keep the whole team in the loop"

4. Creating dependency through resource control: Elon using funding as leverage - "I will no longer fund OpenAI until..."

5. Double binds and no-win situations: Team had to choose between losing funding or accepting control terms

6. Triangulation between parties: Playing Greg/Ilya against Sam, Sam against Elon, etc.

The patterns use control, artificial urgency, shifting narratives, and manipulation of relationships to maintain power.

2 comments

Someone thought they were funding a non-profit instead they gave money to a [trillion $ unicorn] startup for free. Foolish.
Yea. It’s called social dynamics and plays out in pretty much any situation.

Please don’t think I’m a fan of the people at play here, I’m not. But it’s pretty standard stuff.

I‘d call this politics instead of social dynamics and argue that its importance differs across companies, but generally. I’d agree though that I also don’t find this out of the norm (in those specific circumstances)