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> The industry is not in a place where farmers can make any meaningful profit

To be fair, there was Onlyfans kind of money in it in 2022. It ebbs and flows. Always has, always will.

It just might not be a good tech backup plan as the ebbs and flows have been perfectly aligned with tech's ebbs and flows for at least the past 20 years that I've been watching both. When tech is good, so is ag. When tech is bad, so is ag.

On the other hand, if you are going to become a farmer (or anything, really) you definitely want to start during the bad times. If you try to start when the going is good you're just going to overpay to get in, and then quickly land in a down market.

[_heimdall]

> To be fair, there was Onlyfans kind of money in it in 2022. It ebbs and flows. Always has, always will.

Are you thinking about some of the homestead influencer types here?

I have a homestead / small family farm and follow quite a few of the common ones. Those that make good money as influencers don't really farm, and those that do farm are getting by but not making any profits big enough to write home about.

We decided not to make our farm into a business pretty quick. The primary goal was to grow our own food anyway, including meat, but it doesn't take long to see how bad the business fundamentals are if you're unwilling to go into a crazy amount of debt to run what most would consider animal abuse and/or ecological destruction.

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> Are you thinking about some of the homestead influencer types here?

Not really. I was humorously comparing farm incomes to incomes of certain pornographic performers. Not quite up there with the 1920s (when the farmers all built mansions after harvest), or the 1970s (when a single crop paid for the entire farm), but it was probably the third best time in history to be a farmer. Of course, good times can't last forever.

> We decided not to make our farm into a business pretty quick.

My farm was a business from the get-go. Some years are great, others not so much, but on balance it's a pretty good gig.

> if you're unwilling to go into a crazy amount of debt

That's the beauty of coming from the high paying tech industry. You don't need to accumulate the debt, you can pay for it out of pocket. I agree that if you start giving bankers your profit, you won't have a good time. That is a trap a lot of farmers do fall into, and perhaps have no choice but to without a tech (or similar starting point) foundation. However, for the typical reader here...

> to run what most would consider animal abuse and/or ecological destruction.

Be the change you want to see. There is always more work to do, but my farm has come a long way in improving upon those things from how things were done before I arrived.

[throawayfarm]

how much did it cost to start up your farm?