[card_zero]

Is there a language that's substantially free of gibberish?

[chongli]

Racket Beginning Student [1] language.

[1] https://docs.racket-lang.org/htdp-langs/beginner.html

[gorjusborg]

And its predecessor, Scheme, which is my vote.

[pjmlp]

Those of Algol/Wirth linage, or influenced by then.

Then again people complain that they are too verbose, and they rather write in hieroglyph friendly languages.

[Joker_vD]

Compare

   char (*(*x())[5])();

and

   var x: pointer to func() pointer to array[5] of pointer to func() char;

or if you wish to replace some keywords with glyphs:

   var x: ^func() ^[5] ^func() char;

And it's always a nice puzzle for the reader to explain why there are three "pointer" in cdecl output and three carets in the ALGOL-like declaration, but only two asterisks in the C declaration.

[trealira]

In this case, the C declaration doesn't match the other two. The variable x is a function that returns a pointer to an array of 5 pointers to functions returning char. Indeed, that's what cdecl.org says:

  declare x as function returning pointer to array 5 of pointer to function returning char

Using the notation you did, that would be:

  var x: func() ^[5] ^func() char

There are only two arrows there now.

If you wanted a pointer to a function like this, you would need a third asterisk in the declaration:

  char (*(*(*x)())[5])();

[Joker_vD]

Oh, good catch, thank you! But I remember an example with some other tricky C expression/type declarator where the number of actual dereferences differed from the amount of asterisks in the code.

> Using the notation you did, that would be:

Well, it'd be

    func x() ^[5] ^func() char; ...

because it's a function declaration, after all, not a variable.

[trealira]

> But I remember an example with some other tricky C expression/type declarator where the number of actual dereferences differed from the amount of asterisks in the code.

Was it this code?

  void f(int *a) {
      void *p = &a;
      ***(int*(*)[])p = 1;
  }

Reading your comment made me think of this. I tried to find the original post for this, but it seems it was deleted. I only found it again through this post: https://zig.news/sobeston/using-zig-and-translate-c-to-under...

[unrealhoang]

for declaring function pointer?

Any language with type after name :

    // c
    char (*(*x[3])())[5];
    // golang
    var x [3]func() *[5]byte

[dogleash]

Depends on the features you want.

[sitzkrieg]

forth will contain as much gibberish as you put into it

[marginalia_nu]

Yeah sure, COBOL is great in that regard. Basically reads as English.

[pwilson7]

nope