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by vi4m 585 days ago
It’s not dead but nearly dead.

The question is why they focused on DEI, weird social activism so much and not on engineering itself.

Look at SQLite. SQLite is notable example where they don’t even have CoC(!) and focus only on getting engineering done. No marketing, events, sponsorships.

Pure wonderful code that works.

Edit: read more here about their „progressive” transformation https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/diversity/2022/
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self_awareness 585 days ago
> Look at SQLite. SQLite is notable example where they don’t even have CoC(!) and focus only on getting engineering done. No marketing, events, sponsorships.

They kind of do have a CoC, called Code of Ethics.

https://sqlite.org/codeofethics.html

But it's probably not what "tolerant" people are looking for. And it's fine.

Also, SQLite is open-source, but not open to contribution, so they can "get away with it". Although I completely support their model of doing development.

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asacrowflies 585 days ago
So you want absolute religious zeal in open source? As opposed to "tolerance" quotes from your link ..

"First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. "

"Obey in all things the commands of those whom God has placed in authority over you even though they (which God forbid) should act otherwise, mindful of the Lord's precept, "Do what they say, but not what they do." "

"Fulfill not the desires of the flesh; hate your own will. '

I hate sjw corrupting coc's invading the foss meritocracy as much as the next guy but this is so radicaly on the other side of the spectrum I think I hate it just as much .. being reactionary to sjws like this is still letting them win.

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self_awareness 585 days ago
All I've said is that I support their development model, meaning that I support their choice not to allow thirdparty commits in their code.

As for your highlighted excerpts, the first one says about having respect for the rules. Second one is about respecting the chain of command. Third rule is about having self control over oneself, and discipline.

Of course you've also failed to mention that in that COE there is also a comment that you're free to not obey those rules. They've just written those down, but you're not expected to follow it.

How is that radical?

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