[thehappypm]

Number of new housing units built in 2023: 1.36M

Net change in the amount of known immigrants who live in the US in 2023: 1.6M

% of immigrant workers in construction, natural resources, and maintenance industries in 2023: 14%

If we can generously attribute that 14% of the new housing supply is because of the immigrant labor force, then that’s 190k housing units attributable, to house an increased population of 1.6M.

[consteval]

Again, you're simply blaming the wrong people because it's easy and intellectually lazy.

New housing isn't being built not because we don't have the workforce. That is not the limiting factor on new housing.

New housing isn't being built because local governments DO NOT APPROVE new housing. They purposefully limit it, because the residents do not want their investments to go down in value. They go so far as to put laws in place to prevent affordable housing being built altogether. In many cities, you can't even put more than 1 unit on a lot and you need a special approval process to build apartments. Duplexes, triplexes, townhomes, dingbats - these are straight up illegal to build in a most areas.

[thehappypm]

I am talking about DEMAND. Immigrants increase demand more than they increase supply. End of argument.

[consteval]

You're talking about demand because you won't acknowledge the supply side part of the problem!

You're not making an argument; you're being purposefully dense. Talking about demand and then straight up ignoring supply makes no sense, you gain absolutely no information from that.

I don't know why I continue to argue with dishonest people. This is exhausting. If you won't even begin to touch the core of my argument then why even bother?

There're two solutions here. One works and the other just doesn't.

We can reduce demand by getting rid of immigrants. This will be extraordinarily expensive and will backfire - this is a bad, bad non-solution.

OR we can increase supply by building more housing, which we will be required to do no matter what. We can't keep up, we need more affordable and middle housing.