[xtracto]

But this is people that use their autocomplete, F8 step through debugging and the like.

I was like that about 20 years ago, working with Eclipse and later NetBeans for Java and Visual Studio for C# .net v1 (anyone remembers whole tomato extensions?).

I needed the IDE , the autocomplete, the debugger and all that. Nowadays, I do mostly Vim and Vscode for more complex projects. I don't know why, but I "grew out" of needing an IDE.

[bitwize]

Shudder to think that in 20 years (or less!) there will be a generation of programmers who suckled at the teat of ChatGPT and firmly believe that software is impossible to write without LLM help.

[toprerules]

I'm already seeing this as part of my mentoring work. It's very problematic.

[trey-jones]

The weird thing about comments like these is that of course you can do all of this stuff with Emacs, you just have to figure out how.

[xtracto]

Haha I'm a vi guy never used emacs. Not meaning to start a war.

[trey-jones]

No worries, I think maybe I replied to the wrong comment - I would have expected to reply to someone who can't see how an Emacs (or vi) user could be as productive as an IDE user.

[nomel]

I suspect it’s also about the type of work you do, if you don’t need a debugger.

[rad_gruchalski]

Are you using Vim and VSCode in plain text for everything? Or do you still like the language server, syntax highlighting and the like?

[xtracto]

Language server and plenty of plug-ins. I haven't used a debugger proper in more than 10 years I think... only ollydbg for cracking fun.

[rad_gruchalski]

So you do like an IDE...