[jhasse]

> They're kind of just 2nd best at everything, [...]

Being 2nd best when there's only two choices for x86 CPUs makes them the worst at everything.

[ywvcbk]

I think they meant that compared to specific chips.

AMDs x3D chips are exceptionally good for gaming but are relatively very poor for MT “productivity” stuff (this gen seems to be a lot better at that, though).

13/14th gen also seemingly also had somewhat better price/performance overall than AM5 chips.