[Rinzler89]

>Heck, A LOT of things that have that desirable "made in Japan" sticker are made by abused migrant workers with very little protection and pay. They aren't even made by the "mythological perfect and careful Japanese hands."

Same with made in Germany and the US. Actually, Made in Germany is worse.

Every consumer electronic I have labeled Made in Germany is absolutely crap. The Bosch stove has the sealing gasket wrongly mounted, the Siemens vacuum cleaner is poorly designed and built, so is the Fujitsu laptop I just sold which felt like bottom of the barrel e-waste.

Electronics from Xiaomi, Huawei, etc feels way better built and better designed than stuff labeled made in Germany.

[maeil]

Should've gone for Miele. Not even kidding.

[Moru]

I would go for Electrolux from second hand store, at least 15 years old. So far in my life I only bought one hoover. Still going strong after 30 years, just a new bag and filter now and then. And I had to replace the power contact once.

[Rinzler89]

What do I look like, an oil tycoon?

[maeil]

Their build quality means a secondhand Miele lasts longer than brand new other brands for the same price.

[Rinzler89]

Warranty is still the legally required minimum of 2 years for Miele. You have no guarantee it will last longer than that. If Miele had so much confidence in their products lasting longer they'd offer longer warranties like Samsung does on their SSDs of 5 years or so.

The concept of "Miele lasts forever" is as outdated as the "German cars last forever". It used to be true in the past but we can't be coasting on that trope today.