[oceanparkway]

Definitely burying the lede that Tealok is building an alternative to docker compose. Interesting

[wmf]

It's called content marketing. IMO this article is content marketing done right since it has useful information even if you don't read to the end.

[lolinder]

Does it, though?

It has a very brief introduction to Docker and Docker Compose, but then it mostly has a lot of FUD that's designed to scare people off of Docker Compose but is not remotely convincing to someone who's actually worked with it. The way they frame that pihole example ("Whew! That’s a lot of stuff!") is just silly.

Looking at their website, I think they started out trying to make self-hosting really easy for a barely-technical user [0], which accounts for their attitude towards docker-compose, but it also means that the post was pretty devoid of useful information for someone who actually wants to self-host with the tech that's already ubiquitous today.

[0] https://tealok.tech/

[eliribble]

> The way they frame that pihole example ("Whew! That’s a lot of stuff!") is just silly.

Yeah, you're probably right. Originally that line was in there when I had a breakdown of what each line in the docker-compose was doing. My editor thought that was unnecessary - it's unlikely people reading the post would need that kind of breakdown. So I rewrote parts to assume more baseline knowledge. I should have noticed that line and taken it out.

You're right about what we're trying to do, and I agree that the post doesn't really help someone be successful today deploying things. The post is more meant to gauge whether or not I'm alone in having pain deploying a couple dozen services with docker compose on a single box.

I want more people to have the power to host their own services. I think we can do that, but we have to figure out the right thing to build to do it.

[tommica]

Anecdotal, but I learned stuff from this article

[lenova]

Agreed. By default I'm against content marketing. But as a person that has played around a lot in the /r/selfhosted scene, I had to agree with all of the use-case issues mentioned in the article when it comes to managing your self-hosted apps in Docker Compose (and I say this as someone that legitimately enjoys working with Docker).

I'm still not clear from the website what Tealok actually is in terms of a product offering, but I appreciate that the blog post was legit and not just SEO spam.

[denkmoon]

Looks like a grift. Note the copyright on the Tealok page, then have a gander; https://gleipnirinc.com/investors

[eliribble]

Blog post author here - that's the right company name, but not the right company website. Our company doesn't have a website yet.

Looks like we may share a company name with some grifters. That's what we get for making our name an obscure mythological reference.

[nicce]

More interesting is that there are tons of tools that convert docker-compose files to Kubernetes on the fly. Minikube and friends are pretty good and solves all the problems, in a more battle-tested way.

So what is the real business opportunity here?