[larrys]

"If you think otherwise about that set of people, you don't really know them."

I don't disagree with that at all and I've experienced that behavior.

For me personally I'm happy with what I've achieved and how I am mainly responsible for it and that it wasn't handed to me. I did have advantages of course (I didn't grow up in the projects for example and had parents who were middle class) and I don't think I would be happy if I didn't have to work hard for what I have achieved. (No desire to marry rich or anything like that.)

Not saying you are "whining" by saying this but I don't feel there is anything productive about whining about the advantage that others have. It's a given like memory and hard disk space. Just do the best you can to your benefit given the game and any unfairness. After you achieve your goals you can work toward changing society if you want.

[adaml_623]

'After you achieve your goals you can work toward changing society'

Surely the most noble of goals is to change society for the better.

Regarding 'whining' I think it's important to have awareness of the different advantages and disadvantages people can have because government policy is directly influenced by awareness of these type of disadvantages.

* Disability

* Poverty

* Parents

* Surroundings

* Connections

The world is really complex but possibly we are going to be in a situation in the next few decades where society can look at really complicated problems and figure out really complicated solutions.