[ouddv]

> that’s how they make all raincoats waterproof.

Nearly every major outdoor clothing manufacturer is making rain-gear without PFAS. Patagonia, The North Face, Arcteryx, Helly Hansen, Columbia, and Fjallraven (just to name a few) all offer a variety of PFAS-free raingear.

This has been an ongoing effort for 10 or 15 years at this point; with a lot of progress occurring in the last few years, as the PFAS-free DWR chemistries have reached parity for most use cases.

[hollerith]

DWR == durable water repellent.

[idunnoman1222]

GORE-TEX ePE Is like 2 years old there’s like five raincoats with this technology and they’re fucking $500 and nobody has them except for some out of touch, coastal elites. and you have to spray more often with hippy dwr which is made of just shorter pfas, im sure thats much better lmao

[ouddv]

There are at least a dozen of these coatings, and you can get em on $99 jackets. You can also get em on purpose built hunting jackets that no “coastal elite” is wearing.

You can be as rude you want. Your original claim remains incorrect, as are your follow-on claims.

[idunnoman1222]

Did you just move the goalpost to talking about waterproof coatings that come from China because that’s not what the articles about

99% of all rain jackets for the last 50 years are waterproofed with pfas, that’s not a failing of China and changing the waterproofing for a shorter chained PFAS is probably a good direction( unless you have to use 100 times more over the lifetime of the jacket ) but the article doesn’t even tell you what type of PFAS they detected they probably don’t have the equipment to do that. Curious that you would assume that it was the ‘bad’ kind

[ouddv]

No, I didn't move the goalposts. I was refuting your incorrect assertion that the only non-PFAS coating is that one Goretex product for $500 jackets worn by coastal elites.

Literally every part of your claim there was incorrect.

Anyway, you have proven that you are ignorant, that you are ludicrously rude, that you are aggressive for no reason, and that you are either unwilling or unable to have a civil conversation. We're done.