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there is no "off grid", and even then those homesteaders aren't building houses themselves with tools they crafted themselves -- they're 100% dependent on tools and skills they learned in society.

even remote and rural they're often still trucking into town weekly for gas and groceries.

source: in laws in rural AB tried homesteading off the grid. all it meant was that their kid was homeschooled and can't do multiplication and they learned how difficult farming is.