[miah_]

Instead of waiting for the rug pull, just use something open source.

[_mlbt]

UTM is an excellent macOS Qemu frontend and it’s open source.

https://mac.getutm.app/

[e40]

Recently tried it and was severely frustrated how hard it was to use and how limited it was (no snapshots), and how terrible the documentation was.

[self_awareness]

Fusion is a commercial product, and UTM is a hobbyist project. How can you compare these two?

[Woeps]

On how well the software caters to what a person needs?

It's actually pretty damning for Fusion that an hobbyist project can punch high enough to "compete" with professional software.

[self_awareness]

> It's actually pretty damning for Fusion that an hobbyist project can punch high enough to "compete" with professional software.

Except that it doesn't.

Last time I've tried to integrate it to the testing system of my company it didn't support snapshots, CLI interface couldn't be used through SSH without the GUI subsystem working, and sometimes UTM displayed crypting errors during VM startups.

Personally I use UTM at least once a week, and when it works then it works OK, but saying that it matches a commercial product in terms of functionality means that either someone hasn't really used UTM or Fusion, or has distorted imagination what should be required of a software product that should be used in a commercial setting.

[_mlbt]

If you need a CLI you should be able to just directly use Qemu instead, as UTM is just a frontend for it.

For my needs, UTM is actually superior to Fusion because it supports emulation of other architectures as well as virtualization. This is really handy on Apple Silicon.

[gosub100]

I gave up on VirtualBox because their sound broke one day and never got fixed. Switching to qemu wasn't a breeze but it wasn't a debacle either. Just found the right args and saved it as a script