[guilamu]

There was no deception. He said those words exactly: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/30/dona...

Days later, he explained them. Knowing him, he could have meant them literally. He said he did not. Again, after the fact and after the global uproar.

Those are the facts.

[lynx23]

I no longer care. I cought the left lying to me too often in the last 4 years. I am done. All I want is maximum distance to all of that.

[stouset]

I genuinely struggle to understand a mindset that is done with “the left” having lied to them but which remains wholly unconcerned by the unending torrent of lies coming directly from the mouth of our President elect. Up to and including lies about his election defeat which resulted in supporters literally storming the Capitol to overturn those election results.

[consteval]

They both simultaneously support Trump as a monarch, elected by God himself, and consider him a bumbling fool prone to lying, and as such never to be listened to. If I wanted to find the best evidence of Trump's deception, I wouldn't ask democrats, I'd ask his supporters. But they are not ashamed, they actually adore his deception and use it as a tool to dodge accountability.

It's bizarre, almost a type of political self-hatred or shame.