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by mromanuk 593 days ago
BTW, saying that someone "is a bit of a quack" is an ad hominem fallacy. The article linked talks about the "keto" part of the protocol, it does not discuss the glutamine portion of the treatment. I'm not sure who is right, but I would love to see, someone debunking it with data. Protocol: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-019-0455-x
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sausagefeet 593 days ago
No it is not. If you want to consider informal logical fallacies, it is closest to "poisoning the well", as I am tarnishing his name in an effort to make you not believe is claims. I am not saying he is wrong because he is a quack, I am saying he is a quack, and here is an article going into why he is wrong.

> but I would love to see, someone debunking it with data

The problem is Seyfried doesn't have data. His science is bad and extrapolating from marginal results. Some parts of these ideas might pan out, but all I've seen indicates he's made this his hobby horse is riding it.

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Calavar 593 days ago
Speaking of fallacies, dismissing an argument because you found a single fallacy within it without addressing the main substance of the argument is known as the fallacy fallacy.

There is a lot chew on in that comment and that article beyond "a bit of a quack"

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derangedHorse 591 days ago
The fallacy fallacy is when you dismiss a conclusion based on a faulty argument. Him not addressing the argument isn't that. Him dismissing the conclusion of the argument is that.
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nwienert 593 days ago
Speaking of the fallacy fallacy, calling out someone for calling out someone for a fallacy using the fallacy fallacy is the fallacy fallacy fallacy — as an initial fallacious fumble may indeed foretell further fallacious findings in a given figure.
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TZubiri 593 days ago
I know it's a joke. But he just named the phenomenon, not discredited the whole argument.

Edit: so you commited a faux meta fallacy

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TZubiri 593 days ago
Oh nice to learn that. I knew a less formal version in my country which we call "the fat virgin fallacy" which is when you denounce a fallacy in a somewhat informal less strict conversation. Made popular because libertarian argie president liked to tweet and denounce fallacies like so.
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hatenberg 593 days ago
If it quacks like a quack it’s fine to call it one.
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