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by emptiestplace 593 days ago
I started with BASICA and GWBASIC in the 80s, and though I've had some diversions, I would say there haven't been many days since where I haven't thought about solving problems with code. I still don't feel particularly qualified to answer, but I guess I probably am.

> Are all of these posts just astroturfed?! I ask that sincerely.

This is amusing to me - since GPT 4 or so, I've been wondering if the real fake grass is actually folks saying this shit is useless.

I think I'd need a bit more insight into how you are trying to use it to really help, but one thing you wrote did stand out to me:

> the llm is suggesting an API access paradigm that became deprecated

Don't trust its specific knowledge any more than you absolutely have to. For example, I was recently working with the Harvest API, and even though it can easily recite a fair bit about such a well-known API on its own, I would never trust it to.

Go find the relevant bits from API/library docs and share in your prompt. Enclose each bit of text using unambiguous delimiters (triple-backtick works well), and let it know what's up at the start. Here's a slightly contrived example prompt I might use:

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Harvest / ERP integration - currently we have code to create time entries with a duration, but I'd like to be able to also create entries without a duration (effectively starting a timer). Please update providers/harvest.py, services/time_entries.py, endpoints/time_entries.api accordingly. I've included project structure and relevant API docs after my code. Please output all changed files complete with no omissions.

providers/harvest.py: " contents "

services/time_entries.py: " contents "

endpoints/time_entries.api: " contents "

project structure: " /app /endpoints time_entries.py project_reports.py user_analytics.py /services time_entries.py project_reports.py user_analytics.py /providers harvest.py "

harvest docs: " relevant object definitions, endpoint request/response details, pagination parameters, etc "

---

I have a couple simple scripts that assist with sanitization / reversal (using keyword db), concatenation of files with titles and backticks > clipboard buffer, and updating files from clipboard either with a single diff confirmation or hunk-based (like `git add -p`). It isn't perfect, but I am absolutely certain it saves me so much time.

Also, I never let it choose libraries for me. If I am starting something from scratch, I generally always tell it exactly what I want to use, and as above, any time I think it might get confused, I provide reference material. If I'm not sure what I want to use, I will first ask it about options and research on my own.

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>> Are all of these posts just astroturfed?! I ask that sincerely.

>This is amusing to me - since GPT 4 or so, I've been wondering if the real fake grass is actually folks saying this shit is useless.

Heh. If you really wanna conspiracy theory it, if you wanted positive marketing copy to sepl people on using an LLM, would you just use plain ChatGPT, or, because you're in the industry, would you post ernest-sounding anti-LLM messages, then use the responses as additional training data for fine-tuning LLMtoolMarketerGPT, and iterate from there?

I suspect there may have been a few levels of conspiracy that you had to work through before you got to where you are today.