[netsharc]

It's a different kind of "denialism" when people think the magic solution will come somehow, someday soon (i.e. denying how fucked we are, or lying to ourselves that we have the resource budget to produce millions of EVs when in reality all car production needs to be ended, or denying that interplanetary salvation is just too god damn far away timewise):

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jun/20/...

The selfishness is now apparent, hey someone just got reelected promising it'll be better for "us" and that we're going to get rid of "them", and the fuck-the-poor-hungry-climate-catastrophe-victims rightwing populism is rising in Europe too.

[foobarkey]

Dont be so dramatic, we will keep burning fossil fuels if things get really bad we turn the sky purple and keep yoloing bitcoin :)

[pbsladek]

Lol

[alexey-salmin]

> when in reality all car production needs to be ended

It's not obvious to me that the quality-of-life loss from this measure is smaller than the anticipated loss from the climate change.

[pbsladek]

No magic needed. We invented vaccines, we made it to the moon, on the way to recovery of the ozone, created other energy alternatives, etc. big innovations!

https://www.nasa.gov/earth/climate-change/ozone-layer/nasa-n...

I agree with you, evs are not the solution lol. They have many huge cons. Cobalt mining etc.

The problem maybe insurmountable. Even if they are, there is still work to do to make the best of the shit we find ourselves in.

This humans are a terrible species, selfishness reins supreme, we aren’t capable of anything else, everything is bad, there is no hope, we are doomed mentality is a load of shit.

What is your proposed solution? Don’t try? Don’t innovate?

[thejazzman]

I've certainly given up on the idea that my fellow man is going to make the collective good choice. And this now influences my own decision making going further. I doubt I'm alone.

[pbsladek]

Sorry to hear that :(. Don’t give up!