[zbuc]

That's the end goal, unfortunately there are plenty of cargo cultists that don't really understand it and think the process is the important part.

I've worked on scrum teams before, it can be done well if no one takes it too seriously IMO. Once you start guilting the team over the artifacts of scrum, it's fallen apart and become a detriment to your goal of Getting Shit Done.

[vladvlad]

This is the no-true scotsman argument. I have yet to see scrum implemented in a way that wasn't taken too seriously, that didn't make the team's life harder, etc, etc. It's just too easy to say they're all doing it wrong, if it's almost always done wrong.

Maybe the reality is that it only works for some kinds of programming, when not taken too seriously. But then why bother at all?