[havblue]

Parent discusses immigration in terms of xenophobia. The anecdote is an example of how an employee not wanting to be replaced by a lower salary individual isn't xenophobic. The desire to drive down wages though is in the economic interests of employers.

[sanderjd]

Yeah, but what is the political salience of that? It's unclear to me what political party or set of policies this anecdote relates to.

[havblue]

The anecdote would imply that if you're a tech worker, hiring more H1B's or outsourcing development is financially beneficial to shareholders and management while it puts downward pressure on wages for employees.

[sanderjd]

Yes, but again, what political conclusion are you suggesting would be drawn by that?

[BrenBarn]

I wasn't one of the ones who posted in this thread, but the obvious answer seems to be that the person who is told "we'll replace you with a $10/hr worker from Pakistan" will conclude "immigration hurts me and should be reduced" and thus that political parties should adopt that position.

[sanderjd]

Neither political party in the US has this as part of their platform. I'm not sure whether or not anyone here is implying that they do, which is why I keep asking, to try to figure that out.

[havblue]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/us-presidential...

I have no idea whether the Times of India is an acceptable source or not, but here is a quote from them on what happened last time.

"Immigration attorney Kripa Upadhyay told TOI, “During the last Trump administration, there was significant disruption due to the introduction of ‘extreme vetting’ for visa interviews. Certain job categories, such as ‘Computer Occupations, All Other,’ may no longer be an option, as they may require applicants to demonstrate specific technical skills and knowledge.”"

So, likely more tightly vetted candidates who are paid more under Trump 47 but not necessarily fewer.

[BrenBarn]

I think Trump's first term pretty clearly showed that he is in favor of reducing immigration across the board.

[tucnak]

I'm sorry, I don't understand either. You use these hundred-dollar words that sound smart, but their meaning escapes me completely.

[sanderjd]

I think the confusion is mostly my fault, I should have just said this:

I don't think either political party has shown themselves to be against outsourcing.

So I don't really understand what political conclusion I'm supposed to draw from an anecdote about replacing someone with cheap outsourced labor.