[vekker]

Problem is, the legacy media is confidently wrong about all kinds of matters too, all the time.

Why would they have the right to broadcast misinformation, and popular podcasters not?

The answer to this isn't censorship. It's in education and teaching people to think critically.

[braza]

In Germany the alienation of the public founded broadcast midia were so deep that more than 70% of the people believed that the VPOTUS would win the election.

Most of the people that I know that consumes a blend between MSm, independent media, and citizen journalism would not expect the victory of the former POTUS.

It tells a lot about the level of alienation and narrative entertainment that our public media became.

[nerdponx]

If you are being lied to, then the liars are at fault. If you know that you are being lied to and keep on listening without at least increasing your level of skepticism, then you are a collaborator and an enabler and a public-information-well-poisoner.

I maintain that you should not get a free pass to consume bullshit just because you personally find it entertaining, regardless of whether it comes from CNN or a podcast or a Tiktok account.

Libertarians might recognize this as the "harm principle" that they so often like to talk about, and then conveniently ignore when it doesn't turn out to align with the political right wing.

I am not saying anything about what we as a society should do about it. I have no idea what we should do about it. Attempting to censor all liars sounds like a catastrophe waiting to happen, for example.

[vekker]

You say you don't say anything about what we as a society should do about it, but it's definitely implied... or can be seen as such. Especially because it's quite a colored opinion - do you need a list of hoaxes and lies disseminated by the political left in the last 4 years?

Point is, everyone has biases, and everyone makes mistakes. We're only human. I think we should judge an information channel by the way they self-correct for those mistakes. That tells a lot about character and values, and whether or not to trust the source. So I believe we desperately need a meta layer on the Internet, much like X introduced with community notes, but on a larger scale. Open source, fully auditable, immutable (append-only and decentralized, so probably on a blockchain cause of the Byzantine Generals problem) - but I'll admit, that's just the tech geek in me trying to find a practical tech solution to a complex social problem.

[nfw2]

> Attempting to censor all liars sounds like a catastrophe waiting to happen, for example.

This is the whole point of libertarianism. No one thinks lying is morally good.