[jnsaff2]

> Why's everyone going away from declarative?

If I had to guess it's because

- more imperative background developers need to work with infrastructure and they bring over their mindset and ways of working

- infrastructure is more and more available through API's and it saves a lot of effort to dynamically iterate over cattle than declaratively deal with pets

- things like conditionals, loops and abstractions are very useful for a reason

- in essence the declarative tools are not flexible enough for many use cases or ways of working, using a programming language brings infinite flexibility

Personally I am more in the declarative camp and see the benefits of it, but there is certain amount of banging ones head against it's rigidity.