[mmooss]

How is that made better by tariffs? Do you mean the increased prices will reduce consumption, which will reduce the accompanying waste?

[skhunted]

Yes.

[mmooss]

Sure but that seems more a clever side-effect than a real policy?

[skhunted]

Outcomes are more important than "real policy".

[mmooss]

Real policy is about real outcomes; this idea, while interesting to talk about, fails on outcomes.

[skhunted]

Hasn’t been implemented so how do you know the outcomes won’t be there? Real policy as you call often times fails to have intended outcome or has lots of unintended consequences.

[mmooss]

> Hasn’t been implemented so how do you know the outcomes won’t be there?

That's not a serious policy analysis, or even much of a debate exercise.