[randomdata]

> I think in part it's with how women versus men are socialized here.

Indeed. Women are socialized to seek men of higher status as a partner. Thus men feel the need to seek higher status to become an attractive mate. And so men "infiltrate" any position that offers a chance at higher status (at least where high pay stands in as a proxy). Likewise, men are socialized to seek women with beauty rather than status, so there is little imperative for women to seek professions of status, but do benefit from careers that will preserve their beauty – so something like welding in a harsh environment that is hard on one's health is not a top choice.

That said, the social norms do seem to be changing. It appears the younger generations aren't coupling up so much anymore, and if that trend continues attracting a mate may no longer be a consideration.

[saagarjha]

You can use words other than "coupling up" or "attracting a mate". People are not animals. Jesus Christ.

[DrPimienta]

People are in fact animals, and women do in fact search for high-status mates across all nations and continents. This is not the result of socialization but biology, and if a man wants to get married and have kids, he needs to provide as a rule of human nature. And if his current nation and government aren't aiding him in doing that, you can bet he's going to be mad. Get over it.

[saagarjha]

The point of socialization is to deny biology, which tells you that you ought to murder and steal and rape so that your offspring can succeed. You can be mad about it all you want but I most certainly will not get over it.

[DrPimienta]

They aren't having offspring. Cooperation with people that hate you does not result in offspring. If the system makes it impossible for the average man to start a family, expect chaos.

>You can be mad about it all you want

They will be. Millions of them.

[bradjohnson]

You can't just say random garbage and use it to justify a wack conclusion, dude.

[nindalf]

That last line truly took the cake. I've heard "romance is dead" before, but this person is suggesting that all relationships are gone haha.

[randomdata]

I provably can. I just did it. You didn't think this through, did you?