[stellalo]

So, screw the planet?

[latexr]

In the words of George Carlin: “The planet will be fine. The people are fucked.”

Perhaps that was the problem with the messaging from the start, it didn’t appeal to people’s selfish nature enough.

[copperx]

"The planet" has always been about humanity. Of course floating rocks in space will be fine for billions of years.

[latexr]

> "The planet" has always been about humanity.

No, no it has not. It has been about a multitude of subjects like the oceans and forests and preserving habitats from human interference. Humanity mishandling those has consequences for humans, but that has historically not been the crux of the message.

It has never been about “floating rocks” either, but the life in it, nature as a whole.

[jnmandal]

Quite the opposite really, but I think it's naive to pretend that was on the ballot here.

Both the candidates were in favor of a continuation of the petroleum based industrial society that will inevitably collapse in on itself.

In fact an argument can be made that this election and it's result are a symptom of that.