He was fairly down to earth on the Joe Rogan and Andrew Schulz podcasts. I'm not saying everything he said was true but the tone of the conversations was fairly different from how he conducts himself at other moments.
He seems to have realized lately that it's a better idea to take his "unhinged" persona mask off in one-on-one interactions like in podcasts or personal interviews. He wasn't like this before, a lot of his interviews used to be disastrous.