[mrguyorama]

Conservatives think that's just a lie. They openly reject the harms that are actively happening right now in Texas.

How do you win an election when your opponent is apparently not bound by reality? Maybe Harris should have just promised puppies and rainbows and candy.

[itsoktocry]

>Maybe Harris should have just promised puppies and rainbows and candy.

She did, and no one fell for it.

Consider that, just maybe, you're the one not bound by reality.

[bluGill]

An liberals are not honest about caring. They are arguing because of a few bad cases all abortion should be legal, instead of using this as a reasonable compromise. So long as those are the two choices a lot less humans die if all abortion is banned even if some mothers die as well. (Do not say a fetus isn't a human - that might work for you but it doesn't apply to anyone against abortion and you just look like an idiot for not recognizing what they see as an obvious fact and we get nowhere).

If you want to support a compromise: most of what you need to do is shut up everyone who will only accept their extreme position.

[TheHypnotist]

Stop trying to introduce nuance to a topic where there is none. It should be entirely left up to the woman and her doctor.

[bluGill]

And you have just ensured this fight will continue.

[TheHypnotist]

I wouldn't compromise on my bodily autonomy, neither should women. It's simple. You making it more complicated is what ensures this fight will continue.

[bluGill]

What we have here is a conflict of values. That you think it is simple is insulting the values of others. Most people against abortion value females right to body autonomy: they value the right to not be murdered more.

[itsoktocry]

Except if it's a COVID vaccination.

[TheHypnotist]

That's very much a false equivalency as pregnancy and miscarriage is not contagious.