[olliej]

Look just because the CEO of the US military contractor spacex has documented illegal communications with the dictator of a country at war with an ally, and a multi decade history of interference, and spy craft in the US, doesn't mean there's anything to worry about. After all, we just had an election where the law-and-order party got a convicted fraudster and rapist with a multimillion dollar legal ruling against him, a multi-decade history of fraud, documented bribery, nepotism, basic corruption, and outright treason elected as president on a platform off targeting minorities, removing fundamental civil rights, threats of violence and abuse of law enforcement.

There's no reason to worry. After all, as long as you are a white dude with an AR15, and self worth based on being a bigoted bully, you will be fine. At least for now. Make sure you tow the line though.

[clown_strike]

Criminals deserve a second chance, don't you agree?

[inemesitaffia]

They are documented and therefore not illegal.

[_1tem]

This sort of holier-than-thou moral take and self-delusion is the reason Democrats lost. It’ll be interesting to see if this losing take disappears because it got summarily defeated, and what new narrative the new-left adopts next.

[jwkpiano1]

He literally listed a bunch of provable facts, then suggested reasonable concern about folks’ safety. This isn’t a game. People’s lives are at stake here.

[inemesitaffia]

illegal communications that are clearly legal is facts apparently

[dleary]

It’s interesting that you don’t even attempt to counter any of the points GP raised.

Instead, you Respond to Tone [0]

Once upon a time, Republicans had principles. As recently as 2015, they still often pretended to.

When Republicans had principles, we could argue over which side we agreed with, which side was correct.

Now, the Republicans have abandoned the principles that America was founded on.

Now, you don’t even pretend like principles matter. You don’t even pretend like you need to address any of these points GP raised.

It would be extremely damaging to GP’s argument if you would demonstrate that any one of the dozen or so points that he raised was a mischaracterization of the truth.

Apparently you can’t do that, because instead, you call GP self-deluded and complain about his “take”.

Literally just Ad Hominem [0] and Responding to Tone [0].

Shame on you.

[0] https://paulgraham.com/disagree.html

[inemesitaffia]

I've countered one but it doesn't matter anyway

[dmonitor]

"facts over feelings"

[avmich]

I like your double quotes.

[ImPostingOnHN]

It's funny how everyone seems to have their own, different, personal opinion of "the reason democrats lost", regardless of their qualifications.

Thank you for yours, I will add it to the list. It will share space with "jesus", "civil rights", "qanon", etc.

p.s.: calling someone "holier than thou" is usually itself holier than thou. Is this case an exception? Probably not.