[piiritaja]

The end of the war on Russia's terms is not positive for any European.

[arandomusername]

It will be positive for the thousands of Ukrainian men that get drafted and sent to die.

[rob_c]

OK, so we fight until there's nobody left alive for what exactly?

Most of the Russian proposed peace plans are basically. "Leave it alone and stop fighting".

Hardly the demand of Kiev on a silver platter and would save a lot of resoruces/lives.

Is Ukranian pride worth it's economic destruction, worth lining the pockets of the war merchants or worth the continued spiraling death toll?

It's a little less David vs Goliath and more aknin to Davids little cousin tommy with a waterpistol vs a flame thrower...

[piiritaja]

You do realize that Russia's imperial ambitious won't just suddenly vanish away after the war in Ukraine? Russia will keep being Russia if we meet their terms.

[rob_c]

There is a thing called history. Without context all aggression is blind. Please go away and read up. This is not a new blitzkreig despite how many like warm IQs day it is. If it was Kiev would be a parking lot and Germany would be negotiating Poland future already