[teyc]

What I was surprised to find in some big orgs is the processes have not evolved to be cloud first. There is lack of maturity, still a chain of committees, approvals, and manual processes; risk management still treats the services as a giant intranet, deployments are not scripted, ad hoc designs. Resources are placed in vnets so that they resemble a system they already know, and comes with all the associated risks.

[ElevenLathe]

This is the reality IME. I'm currently in an org that has been "in the cloud" for over ten years but is only now architecting (some) new projects in a cloud-first way. Meanwhile there is big pressure to get out of our rented cages so there is even more lift-and-shift migration happening. My guess is that we eat roughly 5x as much compute as we would need with proper scaling, and paying cloud prices for almost all of it.

[eleveriven]

Yep transition to cloud-first is still such a challenge for many big organizations

[Agingcoder]

Any large scale transition actually !

[teyc]

The transition has to be accompanied by a revamp of all the technical processes associated with IT provisioning, which is too much and too risky to do.

[eleveriven]

Change can be tough