[croes]

They just demand the data per warrant and if you don’t deliver you go to jail for obstruction of justice

[gruez]

How does that work if it's a cloud system and you're denied access because the IT admin from another continent locked you out? Are you going to keep the executive around as a hostage in hopes of getting them to release the files?

[croes]

Why should the IT guy lock you out if you want to access your data?

[gruez]

Because you hit a kill switch hours earlier, or (more innocently) sent a slack message to your CISO that some "scary men" showed up at your doors.

[croes]

And how do you explain the police why the IT guy does that?

It’s pretty obvious to them and would be counted as obstruction of evidence

[arccy]

yes? that's why countries require human presence

[red_trumpet]

Is that true? I'm not a lawyer but AFAIU, you don't have to provide incriminating evidence against yourself?

[bogeholm]

It’s more or less the dictionary definition of ‘subpoena’ eg. [0]:

> under penalty (you shall bring with you)

[0]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subpoena%20duces%...

[croes]

The IT guys aren’t the ones under investigation.