[theflyinghorse]

Really struggling to see how Sveltkit is a all similar to RoR. Sveltkit is just a frontend SSR framework lacking the rest of the goodies and patterns of a full stack framework. Sveltkit seems to be a next.js alternative but not a RoR alternative

[claudiojulio]

Sveltekit is not the same as Rails. It's an evolution. Plus, it's very easy to get any Rails functionality from NPM.

[nop_slide]

It's not the same at all. I have a SvelteKit + FastAPI app that ironically I'm porting to Rails after rediscovering it.

Indeed SvelteKit is basically like NextJS for Svelte. It's just a thin server layer + routing which enables SSR, form submissions, and a few other goodies.

You don't get the kitchen sink like with Rails.

Just off the top of my head here's things you get with Rails that you don't with SvelteKit

- auth (new in Rails 8)

- background jobs

- email processing

- database connections and ORM

- caching layer

By the way this is coming as someone who is a fan of SvelteKit, it's just not objectively the same nor an evolution of rails at all.

[sureglymop]

One minor thing I would add is that of very recently, the new svc utility can set up auth, database stuff, i18n and some other things when creating a new svelte kit project.

I suggest trying it out, it's pretty cool.

[nicce]

> Plus, it's very easy to get any Rails functionality from NPM.

Well, that is the issue of modern software development. People download even packages like `is-number` which is in the end few lines of code.