[talldayo]

> and to them USB-C is that weird connector where they never know what'll work today.

No? What world do you live in?

Both of my parents have used USB-C for years, and they're more careful with their charging blocks than they are with their cables. All they care about is plugging in their devices to charge and USB-C cables do that fine. Both Lightning and USB are replete with non-conformant counterfeit cables, it's a moot point since people throw away anything that is nonfunctional. 99% of consumers don't need Thunderbolt capabilities, so they don't actually care if it's there. That's why your mom and dad don't charge their phones with fully-specced cables either.

Considering that Lighting cables tend to max out their wattage at the USB-C minimum, I think these are some seriously bottom-barrel arguments. Even child-friendly manufacturers like Nintendo consider USB-C perfectly suitable to trust with children, because it's actually not that hard to deal with if you're just trying to charge a tablet. And so does Apple, if you don't consider the Mac a fully estranged business.

[creshal]

Nintendo is the perfect counter example for the supposed "universality" of USB-C:

- The Switch insists on an obscure non-mandatory voltage that many early USB-PD power supplies did not support (and good luck teaching the difference between USB-PD and USB-QC), and even today a good chunk won't

- The Switch is the only commonly used device to not use DP Alternate Mode for its docking station, so it needs special Switch docks that support it (but an iPad will run with a Dell laptop dock!)

Apple at least managed to unify their devices on USB-PD for charging, but if you're using any other phone vendor, you run into the added problem that PD is a premium future and you're only getting QC for fast charging.

I can find a set of USB cables and a charger on Amazon that can charge any combination of laptop, phone and Switch at the same time with full speed. But 99% of regular, non-IT people I meey consider this witchcraft - anything other than "I use my laptop charger and the laptop cable for my laptop, and the phone charger with the phone cable, and the switch charger has the cable integrated" doesn't work for them and they have better things to do with their lives than figure out why, and I can't blame them.

[phil21]

The Switch is an outlier early USB-C device. The situation sucks, but my wife hasn't had an issue charging hers with pretty much all the USB-PD power bricks in the house today. No special attention was made to buying these, they Just Work. I think we found one which we just tossed as to never have the issue ever again by accident, but that was many years ago.

Again, this seems to be a lot of social media hysteria over effectively a non-issue. I don't know anyone in my life who has a problem charging their phone and laptop off the same USB-C charger. Buy a 60W USB brick of decent quality and chances are it will charge everything you care about at a reasonable speed. These are folks who do not pay attention whatsoever to technology.

USB-C has absolutely improved the situation by a large margin. It's not perfect, but it's slowly getting better every year in my estimation. The early USB-C devices are starting to age out, and most things released recently are pretty good at conforming the basic set of standards you'd expect them to.

If you're doing out-there nerd stuff, I'd expect issues like anything else at the bleeding edge of tech. Such as trying to daisy chain multiple 4k monitors and the sort off one cable. That stuff can be difficult, but very few have such use-cases.

As a charging standard it's become pretty solid.