[ffsm8]

The GraalVM is significantly more performant. Calling that "chasing the new shiny" redefines the meaning of the expression, which has historically been about side-grades for unclear advantages.

Especially considering that Springs support isn't full yet, and quarkus has been around for 5yrs now.

They're both production ready stacks though, really strange to have spring fanboyism in 2024

[alanfranz]

If Rails is fast enough, I doubt plain old Java on a standard JVM is slower. We’re talking comprehensive and productive web stack, not raw speed, otherwise we go back to the Go and Rust case.