[pessimizer]

They're literally inundated with the message in all media. The US government spread rumors about Chinese vaccines it knew to be safe to convince people not to take them. The US has budgeted 1.6 billion dollars for propaganda activity against China.

[surfpel]

The coordination and omnipresence of the western media is the most impressive thing I’ve ever experienced. Once you catch them all lying about incontestable truths in unison, the charade falls apart.

Americans grow up in this soup. They even have rebellious media companies that say edgy things, but all tow the party line. It’s genuinely incredible.

[evulhotdog]

Out of pure curiosity, do you have a few examples of this that you can cite and provide indisputable information to demonstrate it?

[surfpel]

It happens all the time and it would be quite a bit of work to prepare a list to the level of un-disputability on my part (which seems to be required as Hacker News is feeling very pro-establishment at the moment), but a recent example of this is the failure of the Iron Dome system against Iranian rockets.

Videos online very, very clearly showed many rockets bypassing the system, with some interceptions in the video that made it all the more obvious how many rockets were not being intercepted. All western media claimed the Iron Dome was exceedingly successful and blocked 90%+ of the missiles. This was also not corroborated by non-western sources. It wasn't until Planet Labs released evidence of dozens of strikes on an airbase that this specific messaging decreased.

At that point, they didn't acknowledge that 'error', but instead shifted the narrative to say that the attack, which Iran gave several hours warning of and had explicitly designed not to take lives, had failed because nobody got killed.

Israel coverage in general is a great topic to witness this phenomenon.