[maweaver]

You sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole... you don't have to have ID to vote, but you do have to be registered to vote (which requires ID). So in order for an illegal immigrant to vote, they would need to impersonate a registered voter (and presumably if that person did vote, it would be flagged as multiple votes under the same registration). Not impossible, but not the same as being able to just walk up and vote no questions asked.

[Izkata]

Nope, automatic voter registration through the DMV when getting/updating a driver's license can do it, which they are allowed to have. One of the recent court cases (like within the past few weeks) involved removing people from the list of registered voters who failed to check the "I am a US citizen" box. Driver's license is what most of us use as a government ID anyway.

[dataflow]

Automatic vs. manual doesn't seem relevant? A driver's license is an ID, so if they have that for automatic registration, then they still have an ID.

I think your point is that people can just lie about citizenship and get away with it when registering to vote, regardless of when/how it is done? Is that it?

[Izkata]

Registering to vote has been made so easy it can be done by accident. Then months or years later when an election is coming up they'll get a voter card on the mail and think that means they can vote even though they're not legally allowed to vote.

[dataflow]

I'm kind of incredulous at this if I'm being honest. How can you register to vote by accident? Every form I've seen a copy of asks if you're a citizen and gives you a warning about that. Do you have a copy of the form or screenshot you're referring to that makes this easy to do by accident?

[Izkata]

I don't, but it's easy to find people who realized this happened to them, getting scared about their immigration status and/or breaking the law. And the DMV isn't the only way this can happen:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DACA/comments/1aolik8/accidentally_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/1cuop36/need_advice_...

The comments on this one have someone describing how it almost happened to them at the DMV with the checkbox in question: https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/comments/7bzst0/acciden...

[dataflow]

Ah gosh I see. It's these voter registration campaigns that are misleading people. Thanks for the links, those are really unfortunate...