[stefan_]

Yes, when you don't have access to independent reporting, you miss China building hundreds of landing and invasion vessels, ramming and threatening neighbors over absurd territorial claims, and you could ignorantly conclude there must be "economic reasons" behind the US and China fighting. I'm here to tell you that the economic conflict is merely an immediate and necessary consequence from the realization that when war happens, the US is too reliant on Chinese manufacturing - and so it is being aggressively decoupled.

[coliveira]

Is China threatening any American owned territory? If not, why do you conclude that the US needs to go to war?

[Sabinus]

Because the US is the primary enforcer of the world order that mandates, broadly, that everyone can trade with no fear of attacks on their shipping, and that we don't steal each other's land any more.

When the US gives up on that role, the world is going to change drastically, and not for the better.

[coliveira]

> the US is the primary enforcer of the world order

Nobody gave the US this legal power. It has no credibility there.

> everyone can trade with no fear of attacks on their shipping

Right now this is false around the area controlled by the Houthis.

> we don't steal each other's land any more

Israelis are stealing land with US support.