[zeroonetwothree]

Carbon steel is not nonstick without adding oil. Also you can’t use it with acidic foods. I actually prefer stainless steel most of the time, the sticking is more of a feature for many foods since it promotes browning. (But I do use basically every type of pan for different things)

[mtalantikite]

Oh interesting, that's a point I hadn't considered -- do people really cook in non-stick pans without any sort of oil? I've never owned one so genuinely didn't realize people did that. My Mediterranean family brought me up to use olive oil liberally!

And also true re: acidic foods -- I've got a couple stainless, but mainly use my enameled cast iron or clay (tagine) for tomato based dishes.

[lxgr]

> do people really cook in non-stick pans without any sort of oil?

Definitely!

As much as I generally love it, e.g. pancakes with olive oil sound like a dubious idea, taste-wise.

Regarding frying things in olive oil, I was also under the impression that it's not particularly heat-stable and unhealthy substances can start forming at relatively low temperatures?

[mtalantikite]

Oh lol, yeah, I wouldn't use olive oil on pancakes. That's definitely a butter situation.

As for high heat with olive oil, I'm not sure about it being unhealthy or not. I just found this overview [1], and it seems like there isn't great evidence. I again hadn't considered it, since it's something my ancestors have done for thousands of years. Sample size of one family, but my grandmother lived to her 90s and my great-aunt is still walking around Paris in her mid-90s!

[1] https://www.seriouseats.com/cooking-with-olive-oil-faq-safet...