[diimdeep]

Be aware that this is Microsoft/FAANG camp echo chamberly discussion lacking self criticism, very shallow and "safe" (pun intended) chain of though that sums up to basically here we are maintaining stuff for Microsoft, only mentioning c++ and rust, C# and Carbon.

In similar vein, just so happens that yesterday I listened to discussion to folks outside of bigtech camp and it was much more insightful and introspective, although it is with creator of Zig and Odin language themselves instead of mere evangelists and methodologist book sellers. "Boundaries of Language Design" with Andrew Kelley & Ginger Bill [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K8znjWN_Ig

[nicce]

> with creator of Zig and Odin language themselves instead of mere evangelists and methodologist book sellers.

To be fair, creators are the Jesus Christ in the context of evangelists. There is a strong belief why they created the language.

[lifthrasiir]

Not necessarily because they are in an echo chamber, but both languages are much younger than C++, C# and Rust. (I don't think Carbon even has a significant footprint to be mentioned by now.) I appreciate both languages but they have much long road to go, including the initial "production" version which Rust reached a decade ago.