[m463]

> I run a whole bunch of non-app-store binaries every single day

if you are in the US, you need to either register as a developer, or register an apple id and register your app to run it for a week. that's how you run non-app store code. Both of those require permission from apple.

EDIT: Sorry, ios.

[tra3]

This is completely incorrect. You can download a random binary and execute it. You will get a warning dialog saying it’s not signed by a known developer. You are free to ignore that though.

[m463]

I'm sorry, I was thinking phone in previous comment. Yes, you can run binaries on macos with fiddling (but my comment does apply to ios)

[dadbod80]

Not ‘with fiddling’ — you can run any software you want on MacOS without altering or adjusting anything.

[doix]

Depends what you mean by fiddling. But I'm in the process of switching to mac from Linux because my new job has forced it upon me.

I tried installing "Flameshot" via homebrew and it wouldn't run until I went into Finder, right clicked it and clicked open. Luckily it's mentioned in their docs [0] or I would have never guessed to do this.

[0] https://flameshot.org/docs/installation/installation-osx/

[dadbod80]

I use homebrew every day and have never encountered this. Sounds like an issue with how the software has been packaged.

I also notice two other installation options in your link that do not come with those additional instructions — which to me suggests with whatever they’re doing on homebrew.

[ddingus]

That is not the same thing

If I were you, I would relax. At least you are not being shoved onto Win 11.

And then think about that. Seriously. I did. Have a few times off and on over the years as we sink into this mess.

I bet you find an OS that does a bit more than you may otherwise prefer to prevent trouble. If so, fair call in my book.

Just how big of a deal is that?

Compared to Android, Windows 10 and tons of network services and such and what they do not do FOR you, and instead do TO you.

And you can run a respectable and useful installation of Linux on that spiffy Apple hardware when it gets old. So make sure it gets old, know what I mean?

It could all be way worse.

[talldayo]

> At least you are not being shoved onto Win 11.

As someone that just got out of a gig where I had to run Docker on MacOS - for the love of god, I would have done almost anything to use Windows 11.

Look - if I'm going to be treated like garbage, advertised to and patronized, at least let me use the system that can run Linux shells without turning into a nuclear reactor.

[ddingus]

Nope. A user can just run them if they want to. It is not a big deal.

[ido]

It’s not “a big deal” if the user knows about, but the phrasing in macOS is maliciously bad - I sent a build from my machine to a coworker and when they “naively” ran it, the pop up that came up didn’t say “this program is unsigned” it said “this program is damaged and will now be deleted” (I don’t remember the exact phrasing but it made it sound like a virus or damaged download, not like an unsigned program).

[ddingus]

I don't know about that. Or at least, I won't say they are bad

There are sets of deep roots in play here.

Phrasing struggles are rooted in the differences in these systems, and unless we have spent time in each, struggle seems likely.

That said, I spent time on the Apple side of the computing house early on... I know it helps.