[ozim]

So for a specific example I would have to outline 1-2 years of history of a team and product as a starter.

Then I would have to go on outlining 6-12 months of trying stuff out.

Because if I just give "an example" I will get dozens of "smart ass" replies how this specific one did not work for them and I am stupid. Thanks but don't have time for that or for writing an essay that no one will read anyway and call me stupid or demand even more explanation. :)

[seanmcdirmid]

I get it, you are a true believer. I just disagree with your belief, and the fact that you can't bring credible examples to the table just reinforces that disagreement in my mind.

[hshshshshsh]

The thing is even bad managers can thrive in a company with a large userbase like Google. There is a lot of momentum built into product and engineering.