[nebulous1]

I don't think he was arguing that things weren't more secure after the export controls were dropped. I feel like that's why he was arguing to drop them at the time. He's just saying that all the signs point to Amazon/internet commerce becoming a behemoth either way. So we'd just end up in the same situation wrt what the talk sees as the current state of things, but with compromised cryptography.

[tptacek]

He was right about export controls. Nobody disagrees with him. I don't even think Meredith Whittaker does. But many times, I've come across a folk belief that strong cryptography was rare in North America before export controls were eliminated; it was not.