[1_1xdev1]

Have you looked at startup jobs? Python is still super common despite a).

Regarding b) -- that's just like, your opinion, man. (I'd choose python over it any day, personally, but PHP with laravel is pretty great)

[aristofun]

It’s not my opinion, it’s a statistical fact. Php was a pioneer and it deserves its respect for that. Bit it never was a tool for example to create next kafka with, or at least build some api gateway etc.

Laravel and others “advanced wordpress” use cases is not a “serious software” from technical POV.

[1_1xdev1]

> Because it’s a) scripting language b) not even a good one.

> Even if modern versions somehow overcome those limitations - nobody would bet an expensive project while there are plenty of more relevant alternatives

No, b) is absolutely your opinion (how can "LangX is not a good scripting language" be "statistical fact"? Come on.)

a) -- depends on your definition of expensive, but, again, I point to the tons of new (and old) companies choosing python all the time, even if some other language is "better" (for whatever your definition of better is)

We agree that neither PHP nor python would be good fits for building a database or similar. Doesn't make my points wrong.

[aristofun]

Again - python was not originally a shitty templating engine. It doesn’t have all the bad sides and legacy of php.

Give me a single objective reason someone should prefer php over other (better) scripting languages in 2024?

[0xblinq]

Laravel

[aristofun]

“Advanced wordpress” is not a serious business case for software

[aristofun]

Python is way out of php league btw, "php is good because it's scripting language just like python" is a very weak argument.

And if not for AI hype, who knows where whould it be today. But that's different story.

[1_1xdev1]

That was not an argument I made, and I don't know what AI has to do with it