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by s1artibartfast 602 days ago
If they both stole, how is that a complete explanation for why Americans are richer than Europeans?

Why aren't the native Americans richer than the Europeans? Did the Europeans not also steal?

What about the China? The han conquered a lot of land. Why aren't they richer than Americans?

It just seems a grossly inadequate model to predict national wealth in 2024.
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KingOfCoders 601 days ago
"What about the China?"

What about the English language?

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s1artibartfast 601 days ago
congratulations, you found a typo. That does not validate everything you said and invalidate anything I did.
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KingOfCoders 600 days ago
Sorry had to point that out, I could not understand the logic of your post otherwise, I only know Aristotelian logic.

As an example "Why aren't the native Americans richer than the Europeans?"

Because as I've said everything has been stolen from them? How can they be richer if everything has been stolen from them? You're a millionaire, I steal your money. "I'm rich because I've stolen from you". Then someone says "Why isn't the millionaire rich, he had a million". This is where my understanding of your logic breaks down.

"That does not validate everything you said and invalidate anything I did."

That was not the intention, sorry if you felt offended.

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s1artibartfast 600 days ago
My point is you attribute the entirety of success to to theft, and I think there is a lot more to it. At a minimum, there is the ability to defend and retain what was taken. There is also the ability to utilize the resources one possesses.

The answer to the question "why Americans are so rich" is obviously much much bigger (and more interesting) than that they stole resources from indigenous people.

>That was not the intention, sorry if you felt offended.

What was the intention? I thought you were just being a dismissive asshole, ignoring the rest of a post. Was it a joke that fell flat? were you planning to come back and engage with the other six sentences later?

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KingOfCoders 597 days ago
"My point is you attribute the entirety of success to to theft"

I didn't write that [0]

"I thought you were just being a dismissive asshole"

Using "asshole" says more about yourself than about me [1]

"were you planning to come back and engage with the other six sentences later?"

No, because I couldnt' follow them, I didn't understand the logic, it didn't feel like it followed logic conventions [2]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_logic

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