[KittenInABox]

> Besides, isn't the goal of weight loss to get healthier in general, anyway?

In my opinion, "get healthy" is more a moral judgement than it is an objective assessment. I've definitely seen fat women be shamed even while they're exercising as "not being healthy" or "glorifying being unhealthy" [yes, just for exercising in public, an objectively healthy behavior, except they're doing it while fat].

[galdosdi]

Wow. That is sad, and reflective of the world you live in and people you associate with I guess.

But healthiness can be measured pretty objectively through health outcomes, and high BMI and low exercise are both independently highly correlated with bad ones across the whole spectrum of health aspects. It's not just common sense, it's mountains of evidence over decades across every aspect of medicine.

The fact that some (in your community, many) people twist this around and make it about something else entirely is sad, but in no way affects the objective truths:

- it is objectively healthier to be active than inactive, regardless of obesity

- it is objectively healthier to have average weight than obese, regardless of activity level

I've lived in a few different places and found the culture around exercise and diet to be very different in different places, so I'm not surprised experiences can vary so much. I am curious where you see this bizarre culture of shaming people for exercising.

[KittenInABox]

> I've lived in a few different places and found the culture around exercise and diet to be very different in different places, so I'm not surprised experiences can vary so much. I am curious where you see this bizarre culture of shaming people for exercising.

I mean it's super common on any social media where a non-skinny woman is exercising with any real following tbh. It's gone all the way back to covertly photographing fat people in the gym or in public back in the reddit days of r/fatpeoplehate and 4chan. I mean there was that viral picture of a fat guy dancing off 4chan.

[galdosdi]

Oh OK. So just the internet, not real life then. There's your problem. It is a medium primarily focused on entertainment and spectacle, not a scientific poll and reflection of deep truths.