[llm_trw]

>A government that mandates a specific shared plastic bottle designed to be recyclable would be much, much ecologically effective than switching back to glass.

Given the thread we're in that bottle will some type of unimaginable cancer after 30 years and in 2070 people will be talking about how big plastic captured government.

Glass on the other hand is the definition of inert, who cares if it's more expensive if it keeps us alive longer?

[salawat]

The people who live near the glass recycling foundries, and the environmentalists pissed at the footprint of the continual energy requirement to melt it all down and move it around.

Also, it doesn't further enrich/entrench the oil industry to the same degree as most plastics based manufacturing does.

[llm_trw]

Environmentalists are pissed wind turbines kill birds. We should stop paying attention to people who want us to live in a cave licking moss.

[Ma8ee]

> Environmentalists are pissed wind turbines kill birds.

Those are not environmentalist, but people who are trying to find any excuses to oppose renewable energy. Environmentalists know that wind turbines kill a fraction of the numbers of birds killed by things like house cats or power lines.