[javajosh]

The problem is within that gray area. For enjoyers of vanilla js, like myself, I'd hate it if "core" js got so small that I now started to require a compiler for my ES6 code. If I was in charge I'd say "fine, but the core must be at least as large as ES6" and I'd reserve the right to tweak browser native modules in minor ways (for example, it would be nice to support a SPA syntax where you could export/import modules from within the same page without either a) hacking the global object or b) generating unnecessary resources).

[petre]

The vanilla js APIs are so atrocious that we got jquery.

[javajosh]

I think you missed a tense. Was atrocious, we got jquery, which got folded back into javascript. If the last time you worked with vanilla js was when jquery was hot, you're views are outdated.

[petre]

Sibling and parent/child traversal is still a disaster and querySelector, querySelectorAll doesn't solve it.